I liked Juno okay, but it was more for the weirdness and strange uncomfortableness that settles over me while I watch it... This is just going to be an absolute mess in the comics. At least Juno was written by a woman, but S9 is being written and "produced" by a bunch of men who think that they are oh-so-feminist and want the whole world to see that they truly know what women want and need.
Exactly, there's a lot of things Buffy should have already had her mind on, but the blackening out is high up there. I mean, she's not a booze-hound. She's not gotten really drunk since BeerBad, so the moral of the story is that Buffy is never allowed to drink more than a few sips of alcohol or else something horrible happens?
Also, I'm not exactly enjoying the slight retconning of Nikki's story from the TOTS canon comic to make her somewhat younger and make her seem more vulnerable. Her lover got murdered by vampires and was a cop... and if he's supposed to be Robin's father, then there would be pension benefits and such for the him. I just... The whole thing with Nikki bothers me a lot, and I know a lot of people probably don't agree, but I really didn't like her getting a different actress and then the whole flip-flopping "She had a death wish."/"The mission is what matters."/"He threatened MAH BAYBEE!!!" statements. Is this supposed to be Buffy? She decides not to go through with her pregnancy, then decides to keep it, and then later discovers that the baby is a hinderance on her ability to do what matters to her (whether or not she wants to admit it) until she eventually dies and the kid becomes someone else's burden? I just don't know.
Her lover got murdered by vampires and was a cop... and if he's supposed to be Robin's father, then there would be pension benefits and such for the him. I just...
*pshaw* In the Whedonverse there are no savings accounts or life insurance policies, not even for single parents of minors (looking at Joyce!)
Actually, SororitySarah and I were having that exact conversation the other night about financial difficulties only existing when they're convenient for the writers but otherwise they are written off with "stylish yet affordable" jokes. Of course, the Human Services apparently don't work in any semblance of reality in the Whedonverse either... but that's a whole other rant that will be forever swimming about in the darkest corner of my soul.
I get that Joyce was self-employed and maybe didn't have the most or best life insurance, but surely she had some plus medical (maybe I'm being naive because I know a lot of people who have neither) because it just seems unlikely that she had enough life insurance to cover medical bills from brain surgery and a funeral... yet had no medical insurance at all to cover the former? Also, where in God's name was Hank Summers? Hello, non-existent Whedonverse child support! *head-desk*
Were they married, though? If not, would Nikki even qualify for his pension? (Assuming he hadn't been retconned out of existence, because God forbid anyone in the WHedonverse have a halfway decent father...)
Nikki wouldn't qualify for his pension, but Robin would (if you pardon the pun). I know that they didn't have DNA paternity testing in the 1970s, but they did have blood phenotyping; plus, if he had friends on the force willing to say that he and Nikki were an item at the time of Robin's conception, it might make things easier than the testing. Hell, Robin could have gotten scholarships for children of fallen police officers (again, assuming that Lee hasn't been retconned out of the Whedonverse)... But who needs fathers when we can just write them off as unwanted one-night-stands?
Really, the focus on that aspect of it shows the mentality of the people writing it.
I couldn't agree more with that. I wish I could assure Whedon & Co. that the whole of a woman's universe is not centered between her legs and any happenings that may or may not be going on there.
You seem to be implying that women are people and not just vessels for babies. Where'd you get this skewed world view?
I truly am baffled by folks who think this'll turn out to have any kind of positive message. It's set in the middle of a season that focuses is on how abortion is bad. Even if it saved the life of the mother.
I just don't understand how some can be deliriously happy over all this... Am I supposed to be happy that Spike is going to be holding Buffy's hand at the women's health clinic? Happy that at least he hasn't given her some horrible anti-choice speech so that she can look like she's being really decisive and suddenly making good choices in her life like the reverse of Edward/Bella in their pregnancy debacle? I just... I am left rather dumbfounded that this is where the "official" story has gone. It's been one thing for me to make glib comments about Buffy facing pregnancy and abortion back in S8 with the whole "broken egg" imagery, but... this just makes me ridiculous tired. At this point, I'm just glad that there's a 99.99% chance that Spike is not biologically the father and didn't take advantage of her in her blacked out state because I wouldn't put it passed DH to do either of those things.
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The focus strictly on the kid annoys. You have sex with someone you don't even know, there are other things to worry about.
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Also, I'm not exactly enjoying the slight retconning of Nikki's story from the TOTS canon comic to make her somewhat younger and make her seem more vulnerable. Her lover got murdered by vampires and was a cop... and if he's supposed to be Robin's father, then there would be pension benefits and such for the him. I just... The whole thing with Nikki bothers me a lot, and I know a lot of people probably don't agree, but I really didn't like her getting a different actress and then the whole flip-flopping "She had a death wish."/"The mission is what matters."/"He threatened MAH BAYBEE!!!" statements. Is this supposed to be Buffy? She decides not to go through with her pregnancy, then decides to keep it, and then later discovers that the baby is a hinderance on her ability to do what matters to her (whether or not she wants to admit it) until she eventually dies and the kid becomes someone else's burden? I just don't know.
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*pshaw* In the Whedonverse there are no savings accounts or life insurance policies, not even for single parents of minors (looking at Joyce!)
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I get that Joyce was self-employed and maybe didn't have the most or best life insurance, but surely she had some plus medical (maybe I'm being naive because I know a lot of people who have neither) because it just seems unlikely that she had enough life insurance to cover medical bills from brain surgery and a funeral... yet had no medical insurance at all to cover the former? Also, where in God's name was Hank Summers? Hello, non-existent Whedonverse child support! *head-desk*
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Of course. Just like she's not allowed to have sex. Really, the focus on that aspect of it shows the mentality of the people writing it.
Joss: Continuity is for suckers.
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I couldn't agree more with that. I wish I could assure Whedon & Co. that the whole of a woman's universe is not centered between her legs and any happenings that may or may not be going on there.
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You seem to be implying that women are people and not just vessels for babies. Where'd you get this skewed world view?
I truly am baffled by folks who think this'll turn out to have any kind of positive message. It's set in the middle of a season that focuses is on how abortion is bad. Even if it saved the life of the mother.
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