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fenderlove ([personal profile] fenderlove) wrote2009-02-11 04:08 pm

Spoiler for the New Spike Series.

Straight from the horse's mouth, via Buffyfest Blog's interview with Brian Lynch at NYComic Con.

A spoiler for the Spike series that BL wrote recently. This is the opening scene of the Spike series. Apparently, the day after everything went back to normal in L.A., lots of screenwriters clamored to the studios pitching movie ideas about everyone being sucked into hell. In the Spike series, Spike goes to see one of the movies that got made. It's called "Last Angel in Hell" and it's a Jerry Bruckheimer-esque flick with Nick Cage as Angel and since they couldn't make Gunn the bad guy (something about you can't make the black guy the bad guy anymore), so they made him the wacky sidekick played by Hurly from Lost? The studio execs decided Angel needed a love interest in the movie so they made Spike a woman so that s/he could be the love interest... and Betta George is a dog in the movie. The real Angel and Spike go to see the movie the day it comes out, not realizing that the other would be there, so it's very awkward for them to be seeing Nick Cage!Angel and blonde girl!Spike kissing on screen. Spike gets a little pissy that "This is what people will remember me as!" because Hollywood decided to Hollywoodize the story to make money off of it.

If you want to read the rest of my transcript of the interview, please visit the ATF thread in the Comic Section at CDS.

[identity profile] sueworld2003.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this for real? Sounds very end of Austin Powers movie to me.

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Brian was serious. I've never seen Austin Powers. :D I think it could come off kind a cute. Spike also gets a free car for saving the world... and some endorsement deals.
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[personal profile] shapinglight 2009-02-11 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Um - does this count as Spangel by proxy?

:is completely confuzzled:

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Now this sounds like fanfic. Hehe, so what's theme of this story? Gay/transgender-by-proxy sex is hot?

Wait, this was supposed to be on Buffyfest's Blog interview? 'Cause I really don't remember listening to that part.

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, and in #17 we learn that Spike and Angel bought cellphones and exchanged numbers. Spike's ringtone for Angel is "The Girl From Ipanema." BL said that in the director's cut of the issue for the trade paperback, he may have to actually have to draw the scene where they exchanged digits. *Quagmire voice* Awwwwll right. XD

Actually, one of the Buffyfest people said to him, "Joss did say that Angel always needs a blonde in his life." Brian agreed that that's Spike. :D Angel's going to be appearing a lot in the Spike series, so we'll see where it goes.

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's from part 2 of the interview. Just released today.

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Gotcha. Haven't listened to that yet.
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[personal profile] shapinglight 2009-02-11 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mind the Spangel stuff one bit. Angel can be in Spike's comic as much as he likes. But I've read all of what you said about part 2 of the Buffyfest interview on CDS now and I can't believe he thinks he can change people's minds about Spider. It's like he didn't read his own comic.

First he wrote her as a bimbo in a thong, then as probably evil. Then, like you said, as serially sexually assaulting Spike in prison.

[identity profile] ms-scarletibis.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Spangel? Oh, thank god!

This feels a bit like...TGiQ silliness for some reason, which makes me more anxious/excited to read it :D

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god, no. Not Spider. Kill her! Please! Just let it go, Brian. Let it go, man. Back away from the Spider slowly.

[identity profile] sueworld2003.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
|First he wrote her as a bimbo in a thong, then as probably evil. Then, like you said, as serially sexually assaulting Spike in prison."

Sorry, god knows why he can't understand why folks have a problem with her.

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm such a Spangel. :D
You see, BL has what I call "writer's amnesia" in which he doesn't fully understand what he wrote. I've met many writers like that. On the IDW Forums, when people asked him about Spike getting assaulted, he seemed confused and said something to the extent of "Who wouldn't want a hot chick crawling all over them?" However, Franco seemed to have understood perfectly and drew the panels accordingly (showing Spike's disgust and anguish), yet Brian still doesn't GET IT even though he wrote the damn script with the dialogue! ARGH! This is one of those moments that Lewis Black describes as so incomprehensible that it gives you an aneurysm. He doesn't get why people like Beck and not Spider. You know, I supported Spider up until S: ATF because I thought she had a story to be told (a girl taken against her will by some cult and changed into a half-human/half-spider creature has potential- especially since it was Wiccan tampering and could be compared to what Buffy did to all the Potential Slayers all over the world), but after S: ATF where she basically said, "If you don't give me what I want, I'll take it" I threw up my hands at the whole situation.

[identity profile] sueworld2003.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
He's a bloke. What else can you say really. :0

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
It boggles the mind that he thinks that a guy could get a hot poker to the groin and still want consensual sex. BOGGLES! It's like he wrote it in his sleep or something. *dies*

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it will be cute. I can't wait to see how Franco draws it.
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[personal profile] shapinglight 2009-02-11 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I've left a comment on his blog, for all the good it'll do. If he's determined to make people change their minds about this character, I guess he'll keep trying.

Plus, I don't think I'm one of his favourite people.

Must listen to the other half of that interview myself once I've read the comic.

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-11 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not a sure thing that he's going to include her. He said that he wants to, seemed to be planning on it, but he knew that people really strongly disliked her. I'm amazed he thinks if he keeps trying people would magically like her.

[identity profile] cozzybob.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Ooooooooooooh!! This is gonna be good! *gets slasher gloves on* :D

[identity profile] mulder200.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Wow! Kinky! This actually sounds like fun.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Bwhahaha!

It sounds like Spike = BSG's Starbuck

Personally, I find this pretty freaking funny.

[identity profile] sockmonkeyhere.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I've left a comment on his blog, for all the good it'll do. If he's determined to make people change their minds about this character, I guess he'll keep trying.

Plus, I don't think I'm one of his favourite people.


I know I'm not one of his favorite people. I'm going to leave a comment on his blog, too, although it'll be a repeat of the same thing I've explained to him five or six times at IDW already.

God, these comics are turning into a nightmare.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
It reminds me of some strange cross between the X-Files episode "Hollywood A.D." and the meta or the re-imagining of Battlestar Gallactica when they changed Starbuck from a man into Apollo's female love interest. :)

I think this could be quite funny.

[identity profile] sockmonkeyhere.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
ETA: I didn't mean that the Spike & Angel bits are a nightmare; I mean his decision to not bring Fred back and to remove Spike from the rest of the canon characters and probably pair him up with Spider.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Funny enough, I think one of the Buffyfest people mentioned that in the interview (I'm not sure because the sound quality was poor).

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
There was no mention of pairing her up with Spike. Brian just seems to be interested in making her somehow likable. The only thing Brian understands is that making she and Spike a couple would be the least likely way to do that (thank God for small favours).

I hate the IDW forums. This is the fifth time in six months I've tried registering and I can't seem to get anyone to activate my account. Grrr to them!

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