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fenderlove ([personal profile] fenderlove) wrote2009-02-11 04:08 pm

Spoiler for the New Spike Series.

Straight from the horse's mouth, via Buffyfest Blog's interview with Brian Lynch at NYComic Con.

A spoiler for the Spike series that BL wrote recently. This is the opening scene of the Spike series. Apparently, the day after everything went back to normal in L.A., lots of screenwriters clamored to the studios pitching movie ideas about everyone being sucked into hell. In the Spike series, Spike goes to see one of the movies that got made. It's called "Last Angel in Hell" and it's a Jerry Bruckheimer-esque flick with Nick Cage as Angel and since they couldn't make Gunn the bad guy (something about you can't make the black guy the bad guy anymore), so they made him the wacky sidekick played by Hurly from Lost? The studio execs decided Angel needed a love interest in the movie so they made Spike a woman so that s/he could be the love interest... and Betta George is a dog in the movie. The real Angel and Spike go to see the movie the day it comes out, not realizing that the other would be there, so it's very awkward for them to be seeing Nick Cage!Angel and blonde girl!Spike kissing on screen. Spike gets a little pissy that "This is what people will remember me as!" because Hollywood decided to Hollywoodize the story to make money off of it.

If you want to read the rest of my transcript of the interview, please visit the ATF thread in the Comic Section at CDS.

[identity profile] jamalov29.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 10:19 am (UTC)(link)
Why can't the characters just be!? I agree. No shipping is better than shipping at all cost. It would be interesting to get a Spike without any love interest for a change , just portrayed as the wonderful and multi-layered character he is ( but the writer would have to be respectful of all his past relationships)

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 10:40 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's the point, it being a lame plot device. It's supposed to sound like something lame that Hollywood movie producers would do (like when they add characters and romance to historical dramas to make them more marketable)- that's why it's funny. It's also funny to imagine Spike and Angel having to sit in a theatre watching Nick Cage!Angel and Keira Knightly!Spike make out and being all uncomfortable and shifty in their chairs. Well, that's what I imagine anyway. I also imagine Spike nearly choking on a JuJuBee when he finds out he's been written as a girl. XD I find it funny at least.

[identity profile] joe-sweden.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
I think it'll be funny too! Total crack, but...hats off to the total insanity!

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it's just a movie that Spike and Angel watch. I think their reactions will be the real awesomeness to this scene.
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[personal profile] shapinglight 2009-02-12 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
Guess he's probably feeling a bit overwhelmed by all the negative comments now.

Hopefully, if he does insist on bringing the character back it will just be to tie up some loose ends.

[identity profile] yhlee.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh dear sweet Heaven. Thank you for the spoiler.

I don't ship Spike, period, but I was enjoying him as a character again when Lynch wrote him. (Long story, although I did like Spike's appearances on Angel in general.) I had not read Spike: After the Fall--Spider does what to him? Hot poker? Forced sex? What? And this is supposed to be appealing? Yai, yai, yai. :-(

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure if it was supposed to be appealing, but it was supposed to appear consensual. Too bad the dialogue that BL wrote flat out tells you that it isn't, and yet BL still says Spike totally wanted it. What a strange strange man.

[identity profile] erin-starlight.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay about the sort of Spangel but nay on the Spider bit. At best she's a unstable person (seriously she has a Gollum moment where she wants the Immortal killer thing) and I can't see how anyone could like her give what was shown. When Spike offhandedly refers to her in #17 it doesn't even seem to be in a positive light.

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Bloke here, finding Spider about as appealing as a pint of rancid lemon juice.

[identity profile] sueworld2003.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're the exception to the rule love. Your usual comic book teen seems to love that kind of thing.

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely agree.

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL! I think if we combine your rancid lemon juice and my flaming hot biscotti to the eye, we'd have a real powerful weapon! :D

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps, a few of the people on his blog said they wouldn't mind her coming back if it was to show her being beheaded like in Illyria's time-shift. ^_~

[identity profile] foolishgirl5239.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
*dies*

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Is it a good *dies* or a bad *dies*? :D

[identity profile] foolishgirl5239.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Stunned...excited...shocked...uncertain. *dies* just seemed to sum it up... :)

[identity profile] sockmonkeyhere.livejournal.com 2009-02-14 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Absolutely you gave her a fair chance, and when S:AtF revealed that she was truly ghastly, you had every reason to assume that BL intended for her to be seen that way. Who knew that he has a completely warped view of criminal and immoral behavior? And who knew that he has such a petty, nasty side when readers fail to agree with him?

Seriously, I'm like mourning my love of Brian.

I understand completely; I'm in that same state of mourning, for my love of the AtF comics. That love has been crushed and destroyed and now it makes me sick to read them, but I still remember the joy they once gave me and it breaks my heart that I'll never get that joy back. (Yeah, I was stupid enough to look at a download of the last issue, and the finality regarding Fred that BL ground into it just shattered me. I will never, ever make the mistake of looking at any of them again.)

It's like you were betrayed by him, isn't it? Like you were fooled into defending him when he asked readers to have faith in what he was doing, and he repaid you by suddenly turning into an irrational, spiteful toad. And you keep remembering your pre-toad happiness, and you just want it back.

[identity profile] fenderlove.livejournal.com 2009-02-15 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs*

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